The Walking Dead
Mar. 15th, 2012 09:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sparkfrostAfter several weeks (ok, over a month) of procrastination, Palmer and I finally started watching the new episodes of The Walking Dead. And I have thoughts!
Ganking the "Three Things" format fromcopperbadge:
1. The actions Shane has taken are not all bad actions, per se, especially when you consider the world that they are living in now. What makes Shane dangerous is that he has no sense of group preservation, only a strong sense of self-preservation, and the acting skills necessary to make everyone stay by his side. Killing Otis let him save Carl, yes. But Carl is one child, whereas Otis was experienced with handling Walkers, trained in emergency medical response, and far more able to take care of himself than a child could be. Yes Shane killed him because Carl was in danger, and Carl is one of two people that Shane cares about beside himself. Shane's problem is that the self-preservation instinct he has does not allow him to function properly in a setting where the survival of the group, of the society, is paramount. Dale is right, Shane will kill someone, and it will happen soon, because the only thing that matters to Shane is Shane.
2. Lori is a dumbass. I yearn for female characters who are fully developed and make decisions based on things other than the men in their lives. Instead we get Lori, who is horrified that her son is adapting to the world they are forced to live in, who begs Darryl to go after Rick less than an hour after Rick and Glen drove off, and who somehow managed to be unable to spot a Walker ahead of her on a straightaway.
3. I have been unspoiled, and therefore have no idea what fandom's reaction to 'Rick shooting first' actually was. But I'm picturing indignant Shane fans claiming that Rick's actions are just as bad, if not worse, than Shane's. But Rick was putting the welfare of the group first. Don't believe me? Re-watch that scene, and see how [the guy who was played by Rene from True Blood] says that they've all had to do some unpleasant things, and then see how Other Guy, while pissing against the wall, casually asks about "cooz." There, in quick succession, you have the implication that they've killed living people in order to survive, and that women are a commodity. Rick, by shooting first (though Fake Rene was reaching for his gun), shot men who admitted to murder and alluded to rape. Far different from Shane crippling Otis so that Shane could get away.
And those are my thoughts! If you have thoughts, please restrict them to this episode, I'm trying to not be spoiled. Again mimickingcopperbadge have a:
3a. Seriously, are they in 1840's Old West? The bar had a sign that said "Bar", was across the street from a sign with a horse and carriage, and had those crystal chandeliers that went out of fashion a hundred years ago. I mean, really.
Ganking the "Three Things" format from
copperbadge:1. The actions Shane has taken are not all bad actions, per se, especially when you consider the world that they are living in now. What makes Shane dangerous is that he has no sense of group preservation, only a strong sense of self-preservation, and the acting skills necessary to make everyone stay by his side. Killing Otis let him save Carl, yes. But Carl is one child, whereas Otis was experienced with handling Walkers, trained in emergency medical response, and far more able to take care of himself than a child could be. Yes Shane killed him because Carl was in danger, and Carl is one of two people that Shane cares about beside himself. Shane's problem is that the self-preservation instinct he has does not allow him to function properly in a setting where the survival of the group, of the society, is paramount. Dale is right, Shane will kill someone, and it will happen soon, because the only thing that matters to Shane is Shane.
2. Lori is a dumbass. I yearn for female characters who are fully developed and make decisions based on things other than the men in their lives. Instead we get Lori, who is horrified that her son is adapting to the world they are forced to live in, who begs Darryl to go after Rick less than an hour after Rick and Glen drove off, and who somehow managed to be unable to spot a Walker ahead of her on a straightaway.
3. I have been unspoiled, and therefore have no idea what fandom's reaction to 'Rick shooting first' actually was. But I'm picturing indignant Shane fans claiming that Rick's actions are just as bad, if not worse, than Shane's. But Rick was putting the welfare of the group first. Don't believe me? Re-watch that scene, and see how [the guy who was played by Rene from True Blood] says that they've all had to do some unpleasant things, and then see how Other Guy, while pissing against the wall, casually asks about "cooz." There, in quick succession, you have the implication that they've killed living people in order to survive, and that women are a commodity. Rick, by shooting first (though Fake Rene was reaching for his gun), shot men who admitted to murder and alluded to rape. Far different from Shane crippling Otis so that Shane could get away.
And those are my thoughts! If you have thoughts, please restrict them to this episode, I'm trying to not be spoiled. Again mimicking
copperbadge have a:3a. Seriously, are they in 1840's Old West? The bar had a sign that said "Bar", was across the street from a sign with a horse and carriage, and had those crystal chandeliers that went out of fashion a hundred years ago. I mean, really.
