Battlestar Galactica

[sparkfrost]

Finished the series. Thank you, LJ buddies, for not spoiling me, unlike certain idiotic Facebook friends.

So! Let's talk about it!



Boomer ended up pissing me off throughout. Too easily mislead, too ready to believe in the Cylon god, too ready to not understand how humans would react to a Cylon invasion. Basically, too ready to be lead anywhere that was away from what her experiences led her to understand. Seriously, when I saw her making out with Cavill, I gagged.

Speaking of Cavill, basically a spoiled child who thought he wasn't the favored and flipped out because of it, yeah? I did not like him during season 3, then I watched the episode where Ellen Tigh wakes up and I liked him even less. Because, seriously, it seemed like he was a petulant little kid who got everything that he asked for and then whined because it wasn't what he expected. Especially once Ellen started laying out what he'd done to each of the Final Five, he just came across as a fussy toddler denied his fave passie.

The whole "Mutiny" thing- though I hate a lot of Jacob's recaps, gotta agree with him regarding the mutiny. They got the trashiest established characters to go along with it, and somehow expected us to sympathize? After her speech to Sam, I wanted Seelix dead. It is my personal canon that she did die. Same with the civilian who'd previously been on the "jury"- he turned his legitimate grief over his son into a bloody vengeance scheme, and didn't learn his lesson TWICE! As for Gaeta- I'm sorry you lost your leg, and I'm sorry you fell in love with a murderous Eight, but you need to own your fuck-ups, and not blame them on everyone else.

Gah!

Anyhow, speak to me, about any character, I would honestly love to discuss the whole series, including characters that I've dissed. Let's talk!

Comments

[futureperfect.livejournal.com]

Hey.

Hey so.

Hey so think about the female characters, right? Think about the female characters and try to think of one of the main female characters who didn't die or get killed (at least once).






Yeah.

Yeah, I know, right?

[sparkfrost.livejournal.com]

True, but I do think the female characters were given some of the best character development and plot action. I'm not trying to defend all the dying, but at least they were real characters first, rather than just motivation for the mens.

[cestmama.livejournal.com]

Boomer is actually my favorite story arc, in paralell with Athena.

When we first meet Athena, she *is* Boomer. She shares all of Boomer's memories, but also has knowledge of who and what she is. Athena gets different options, though. Because of her circumstances, she succeeds. She is loved and trusted by Helo, and eventually loved and trusted by Adama, and then loved and trusted by the whole crew. She has a baby that is going to be the salvation of the Cylons. She has everything. Because she is whole, she can make choices that lead her to a happy ending.

Boomer gets a raw deal. She has no knowledge of who she is. She is programmed to betray every one around her. When the truth about her is revealed, she is rejected by her lover (who ironically turns out to be a Cylon himself), her commander and her crew mates. Every choice she makes after that is trying to find a way out of that place, to find someone to love her or accept her. She'll even turn to Cavil, if that's what it takes. All of her choices are bad, after everyone she ever loved turns on her for being who she is. When she finally makes a "good" choice and decides to help the humans, it means her death. Boomer has no good choices to make.

Taken together, those two characters are a comment on free will. We talk a lot about people choosing to be bad or fail or be poor. It's true that our lives are governed by our choices. In the context of our lives, though, there are some people who don't have any good choices. Helo's support opened up a path for Athena that gave her choices. Boomer had no support and no good choices.

[sparkfrost.livejournal.com]

I don't know, I just felt like Boomer never learned from her mistakes. I really did feel for her when she first regenerated- to suddenly be confronted with the knowledge that you are the enemy must be awful and horrifying. And I was happy when she and Caprica Six decided that they needed to find a new way to interact with humans. But a concentration camp?! Up until a few months ago, Boomer was, for all intents and purposes, human. What made her think that bringing the Cylons in as an occupying army would go over well with the Galactica crew?

It just seemed like she kept making bad choices and not understanding how her choices were resulting in the consequences that she didn't like.

[bunnymcfoo.livejournal.com]

HI.


MY LOVE FOR ATHENA AND HELO AND ATHENA/HELO, LET ME SHOW YOU IT:

IT IS THIS BIG: ___________________________________________________________

AND THEN SOME.


I kind of love the cylons - some of them as people, but all of them as an IDEA. And *siiiigh* I still ship Starbuck/Anders like it's my JOB. and CHIEF. ILHIM SO HARD.


/flailing

[bunnymcfoo.livejournal.com]

ahahaha, and I love how the other two comments you got were actual intelligent comments on the show and, like, meta and all and I'm over here being like, *FLAIL ARMS* and *FANGIRLS*


oh, oh self. *facepalm*

[sparkfrost.livejournal.com]

Hahaha, no worries! I love Athena and Helo too! I do agree with cestmama that it was Helo's love for Athena that eventually won over Adama and much of the Galactica crew, plus I think they were just really awesome together.

I also did love Starbuck and Anders, but I think I liked Starbuck and Apollo more. I don't know, it just seemed that she and Anders just leapt on into a marriage without really knowing anything about each other. Kind of the same way that Dualla and Lee were all of a sudden a couple. With no prior buildup to the relationship at all. Blech.

Chief... torn on him. Loved him at first, then kind of really didn't like him for beating up Cally and then marrying her. Felt sympathy for him as he figured out that he was a Cylon, but then he killed Tory and no one said or did anything about it. Yes, she killed his wife, but that wife was clearly suffering from depression and paranoia, and who knows what she would have done. I just... idk. Like I said, torn.

[thewrongtim.livejournal.com]

i miss callie. and i <3 tyrol.

[sparkfrost.livejournal.com]

I didn't want to say this on Facebook, but I really don't like Cally. I'm sorry! I liked her at first, and cheered when she bit that rapist's ear off! But then she shot Boomer (and lets admit that it was solely out of jealousy over Chief), married her abuser, cheated on him and lied to him about the paternity of her child, and was clearly planning to kill herself and said child before Tory stopped her. So yeah, not a fan of Cally past season 1. Sorry!

[thewrongtim.livejournal.com]

DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT MY GIRLFRIEND THAT WAY!!!!

When I see you at Ralston this coming Sunday (hint!hint!hint!) there is TOTALLY gonna be a CatFight.

[sparkfrost.livejournal.com]

Hehe, I will diss her to the death!

I am super excited for RSC! We'll be a bit later than normal, I'm working this Sunday. So we'll probably get there around 3, if that's acceptable.

Also, just saw MCR last night, it was AWESOME!